Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound
From: Marty
Date: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Best Shotgun for run&gun w/ a Marching Band



atlsoundguy wrote:
> Well, I thought I had decided on the Sanken CS3e to replace my trusty
> MKH416T.
>
> Then I recently got a gig following the school band that the movie
> Drumline is based on around - reality style. In the enclosed band
> room, my 416 started overloading and clipping when the drumline
> starting rocking, even with a 20db pad... so I switched to my long gun
> (MKH70) (which resolved the overloading).
>
> Both mics lacked a good sound representing the band, especially the
> highs.
>
> My question is this.... in this scenario of recording "On-the-Fly"
> Interviews, Reality & Band Practice, which do you guys think will be
> more versatile - the Schoeps CMIT 5U or Sanken CS3e? Or am I going to
> get similiar performances from both?
>
> I understand that a nice concert mic set it what is really needed, and
> I am setting up that as well. I'm just trying to get the best possible
> sound with my run and gun rig. Thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris Durfy, Atlanta Field Sound
>
>

The reason a pad on the back of your 416 did not prevent overloading is
that the damage had already been done in the mic. The MKH-70 has a
built-in pad that attenuates the level before it hits the preamp, which
is what is required.

Additionally, a shotgun mic would be the last choice to use in an
enclosed band room. A cardioid or even an omni would give better results.

Think of microphones as tools. In any given situation there are right
and wrong tools for a job, and no single tool will do everything. Making
a good choice requires a thorough understanding of the characteristics
of the various microphone types, and how they relate to the situation at
hand.

I know this sounds vague, but there simply are too many variables to
cover everything in a single post. Take this as an invitation to gather
more information to further your technical education and improve your
skills. And of course, we're always happy to entertain specific questions.

Marty Atias
ATS Communications