Group: soc.women
From: "R. Steve Walz"
Date: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Fat women can't be choosey

AnotherD@rnedSock wrote:
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > Really skinny people often complain about trying to gain weight, even
> > when their friends think that they could only wish for such "luck".
> > Their quest goes counter to the culture's bias, and it's because it
> > is healthier to have a little weight on, and more attractive. Note:
> > The weight-group with the greatest longevity and health are about
> > thirty pounds overweight.
> > Steve
>
> Total bullshit. The only consistent factor that always increases longevity
> is calorie restriction. Very few people, fat thin or normal are prepared to
> live a life of permanent calorie restriction simply in order to add a few
> more years.
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Nor do they find that they are able to do so, even if they wanted to.


> In those occasional communities where the entire local
> population is extremely old, they are all gaunt, thin, rib, cheekbones,
> shoulder blades all prominent. They have lived a harsh (calorie restricted)
> life.
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There are no such communities. Some individuals have merely avoided a
few age-related disordered associated with dissipative living. They
don't actually live longer, and especially not better.

The ONLY caloric restriction that does this is that kind which is
maintained by severely under-feeding animals till they are half mad
with starvation and frustration and have little or no energy to
speak of for anything. This was seen in monkeys treated in this
barbaric manner, they prowled their cages forgaing constanrly with
no relief or satiation.

It also must be done when they are very young so that their body
grows only a little and doesn't even achieve proper adolescence
like anorexic suspension of maturity.

The chief problem with caloric restriction is that almost no one
can do it or else it would be THE cure for obesity, and statistically
that assertion has been shown to be a dismal failure. It could be
enforced on a populace, but they might well gang up and kill you. The
only ones who seem able to do it voluntarily with any success are
anorexics whose psychodynamics are in question.

Barring that idiotic notion, my information indicating that longevity
is BEST maximized along with sanity and enjoyment by being a bit
heavier than the most minimal rationally possible BMI is quite
accurate. It is reinforced by studies of conventional longevity among
western Europeans in advanced societies. The groups more near the
minimal possible BMI without clinical anorexia did NOT typically
survive to as old an age as those somewhat heavier.


> If you are going to lie, do where a few seconds research won't make your
> lie immediately apparent.
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Your problem is that you read the websites you want to read, and not
the actual research that isn't manufactured in quintuplicate on the
websites of the true believers of your nut-fringe group.


> I love the lies that fat people tell themselves and each other.
>
> Sockworthy
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You actually refer only to your own. You're living proof that immature
persons should not be turned loose with research and be expected to
properly interpret it.
Steve