rec.arts.movies.past-films

Derek Janssen wrote:
> trotsky wrote:
>
>> nick wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm saying that any first time filmmaker or anyone with a camcorder
>>> would have the necessary ability to work genres as simple as slasher
>>> and urban revenge but both Zombie and Wan fucked up.
>>
>> Nice spin doctoring. When you say "failsafe material" are you talking
>> a) it is very difficult to make a bad movie with this material, or b)
>> it is unlikely to make a bad movie with this material, or c) there are
>> legions of bad movies with this material, but it is necessary to say
>> Zombie and Wan fucked up to reinforce previous trash-talking that
>> you've done.
>
> Correct answer: A)
> It's very *hard* to make a bad B-movie out of an established
> ritual-genre that would normally allow one to make a passable B-movie
> for its audience without expending undue effort...
> Only in the individual human element, of displaying no actual film or
> storytelling training (as in RZ's case), or no previous experience with
> the genre material (ie. Wan), could one turn a normally "automatic"
> movie into a uniquely and actively bad one.


That's fine, I would just like to see some kind of list of these
"passable" "ritual-genre" movies that you guys claim to exist. If you
just want to continue to spout vagaries, though, I think you know where
you can go.