Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound
From: Jerry Summers
Date: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Inexpensive single-point stereo mike?

In article
<4e983bed-6650-4351-8af6-d201e68da23b@>,
Dave Wendlinger wrote:

> Got a last minute request for exterior ambience stereo recording,
> probably directly into my Edirol R-09, but maybe first routed thru my
> mixer.
>
> I leave for a very distant, very cold location in about a week, not
> enough time to personally test options. It's a three person doc crew.
>
> Looking for something $500 or less, must be field worthy, with real
> wind protection, optional battery power, low self noise floor (most
> important), small form factor. As a last resort I'll use the built-in
> mikes on the R-09, for which I've mcgyvered some wind protection.

I've used my R-09 where it has not been practical or advisable to use
the 744T and Sanken CMS-7 for reasons of discretion, safety, or both
(. back alleys of Istanbul at night, a train to Beijing, etc.).

With the R-09 I use one of two mics -- a Sony ECM-MS957
/Sony-ECM-MS957?sc=11&category=29

or inexpensive in-ear binaurals -- SoundPro SP-TFB-2HT
/SoundPro-SP-TFB-2HT?sc=11&category=27
I'm amazed by these little guys, especially the low end.

I've gotten very good recordings that I've used in films without any
problems.

> As a last resort I'll use the built-in
> mikes on the R-09, for which I've mcgyvered some wind protection.

Don't. They're better as decoration than as mikes.

I did a test with my two rigs recording my neighborhood ambience. I
mounted the the ECM-MS957 just above the CMS-7. The ECM went into the
R-09, the CMS-7 into the 744T. As one would expect, the $7,000 rig
out-performed the $700 rig. The most noticeable difference was noise
floor. The R-09's preamps are quite noisy, which pretty much rules it
out for quiet stuff. However, it's just fine in environments with even
moderate level of ambience.

Jerry Summers
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