Group: soc.women
From: udarrell
Date: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: OBAMA, Michelle -- She Cost Her Spouse the NOMINATION!

aztek wrote:

>On Feb 23, 1:01 pm, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:
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>
>>Thomas wrote:
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>>>On 2008-02-21, R. Steve Walz wrote:
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>>>>>Her remarks smack of the Hollywood "stars" who periodically decry how
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>>>>This isn't the sixties, many people now believe and understand that
>>>>the USA, Inc. does many bad things if not closely monitored and watched.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Relevance?
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>>Unlike the sixties, most people AGREE WITH HER!! Until the chance came
>>to elect a woman or a black, or AT LEAST another democrat, many of us,
>>to one degree or another, written off Amerika as a pig-shit fascist
>>bully nation who won't grow up and which it might be better to try to
>>bring down! Why do you think the democratic voter turn-out is
>>skyrocketing???
>>
>>
>
>Well-said... dissatisfaction with the status quo is part of any
>reasonable position these days.
>
>Interestingly, republican voter turn-out has skyrocketed
>just as much as democratic. I think *neither* party has
>been serving their constituencies well at all, and people
>are feeling more motivated to throw their $ in for
>change. Unfortunately, it appears as if it amounts to
>simply a greater volume of the same old stupid votes
>for the wrong people on both sides, which will not serve
>any of us well with regards to improving anything.
>
>
>
>>Everybody knew what she meant, we've all hated America while loving
>>it for its better parts. Compared to heaven on earth most of us think
>>the USA is a pretty sorry little piece of shit, but if we didn't want
>>to stay and change it, we wouldn't bother.
>>
>>Quit being a little prick who acts like everybody has to LIKE America
>>and what it's doing to have the right to live here, even if we were
>>BORN here. The rest of the electorate is NOT here to live up to your
>>sick jingoist fantasies of glory and conquest!
>>
>>
>
>Again, well-said... particularly so because it applies
>equally, whether said by true liberals or true conservatives.
>
>I myself found Mrs. Obama's remark to seem fairly natural,
>and was irritated that anyone made a big deal about
>it - but definitely not so surprised when I reminded myself of
>how stupid the tactics that the drive-by media and "politiks"
>players employ... from that perspective, perhaps she might
>have foreseen what others were likely to do with such a
>remark, and perhaps everyone else should just be satisfied
>with what she really meant instead of trying to leverage the
>"twisting" of it for political gain.
>
>
Our country has promoted the terror of modern WARFARE as a patriotic
flag waving requirement.
If you are not for the terror of war they attack you & hate you.
Post WW2, I am not proud of what many of our elected leaders of both
political persuasions have done!
- udarrell

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