Group: soc.women
From: Vandar
Date: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood's Fight in Aurora

R. Steve Walz wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>If abortion does not kill a baby then why is killing a pregnant woman
>>>>>>>>>>>>double murder??
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>>>>>>>>>>>It isn't. It's regarded as a crime against the mother. Only uneducated
>>>>>>>>>>>slobbering hooting nincompoops call it "double-murder", the law does
>>>>>>>>>>>NOT.
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>>>>>>>>>> /trials/peterson/
>>>>>>>>>>I guess those at CourtTV are "slobbering hooting nincompoops".
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>>>>>>>>>>California Penal Code Section 187
>>>>>>>>>>(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
>>>>>>>>>>fetus, with malice aforethought.
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>>>>>>>>>More legalistic nonsense. The SCotUS says it isn't, and as I recall,
>>>>>>>>>that is the Law of the Land.
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>>>>>>>>The SCOTUS does not define murder and is not the law of the land.
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>>>>>>>I can't really help that you're obviously uneducated and illiterate.
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>>>>>>The Constitution is the law of the land, Einstein. The SCOTUS doesn't
>>>>>>make law.
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>>>>>The SCotUS INTERPRETS the Constitution, and is the SOLE interpreter!
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>>>>All you need to do now is point out where murder is defined in the
>>>>Constitution.
>>>>Since it isn't, the SCOTUS does NOT say murder doesn't include a fetus.
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>>>You need to read the decisions. The meaning of "person" is decided
>>>by the SCotUS in numerous cases the last 50 years.
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>>California Penal Code Section 187
>>(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
>>fetus, with malice aforethought.
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>>I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's a valid law. It's what made
>>Scott Peterson a double murderer.
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>>>>States define such things and California has defined the unlawful
>>>>killing of a fetus, with malice aforethought, to be murder.
>>>>The SCOTUS doesn't factor into that in any way.
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>>>No, your grasp of law is uneducated and faulty.
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>>Great rebuttal. I'm convinced. I'm sure the California Legislature will
>>be changing their definition of murder post-haste.
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> They know better, they knew the SCotUS would have to overturn it.

They haven't and they won't. The definition of murder is a state issue.

> They did it just so they could get people like Scott Peterson.

Riiiiiight.