Group: soc.women
From: Vandar
Date: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood's Fight in Aurora

John D. Wentzky wrote:

> "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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>>John D. Wentzky wrote:
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>>>"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
>>>news: @ ...
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>>>>John D. Wentzky wrote:
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>>>>>"Vandar" wrote in message
>>>>>news: $ @ ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
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>>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
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>>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>beavis wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If abortion does not kill a baby then why is killing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pregnant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>woman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>double murder??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It isn't. It's regarded as a crime against the mother. Only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>uneducated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>slobbering hooting nincompoops call it "double-murder", the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>NOT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /trials/peterson/
>>>>>>>>>>>>I guess those at CourtTV are "slobbering hooting nincompoops".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>California Penal Code Section 187
>>>>>>>>>>>>(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
>>>>>>>>>>>>fetus, with malice aforethought.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>More legalistic nonsense. The SCotUS says it isn't, and as I
>>>>>>>>>>>recall,
>>>>>>>>>>>that is the Law of the Land.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The SCOTUS does not define murder and is not the law of the land.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----------------
>>>>>>>>>I can't really help that you're obviously uneducated and
>>>>>>>>>illiterate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The Constitution is the law of the land, Einstein. The SCOTUS
>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>make law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-------------
>>>>>>>The SCotUS INTERPRETS the Constitution, and is the SOLE
>>>>>>>interpreter!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All you need to do now is point out where murder is defined in the
>>>>>>Constitution.
>>>>>>Since it isn't, the SCOTUS does NOT say murder doesn't include a
>>>>>>fetus.
>>>>>>States define such things and California has defined the unlawful
>>>>>>killing
>>>>>>of a fetus, with malice aforethought, to be murder.
>>>>>>The SCOTUS doesn't factor into that in any way.
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL!
>>>>>How about that 4th Amendment that GUARANTEES SAFETY AND SECURITY IN
>>>>>ONE'S
>>>>>PERSON?
>>>>
>>>>-----------------
>>>>IF you're a human being, fetuses are not.
>>>
>>>Look. It isn't me who is clinging to some ignorant, negligent excuse that
>>>acts as if persons who are in utero are not persons.
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>>---------------
>>Gee, I'm not either, that leaves you again, asswipe.
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> Bullshit.
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>>Fetuses are NOT persons.
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> Kangaroo fetuses?
> LOL!
> You are dead wrong if you mean that human fetuses are not persons.
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>>If we ever were fetuses we'd remember it.
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> I remember it, you idiot.
> I was a fetus before I was born.
>
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>>Since we don't, WE WEREN'T!!
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> Bullshit, you fool.
> Every time you go to sleep you are obviously NOT a person by that logic.

Anyone who is born, human, and alive is a person. Their state of
consciousness is irrelevant.