Group: soc.women
From: "R. Steve Walz"
Date: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood's Fight in Aurora

Vandar wrote:
>
> John D. Wentzky wrote:
>
> > "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
> > news: @ ...
> >
> >>John D. Wentzky wrote:
> >>
> >>>"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
> >>>news: @ ...
> >>>
> >>>>John D. Wentzky wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Vandar" wrote in message
> >>>>>news: $ @ ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>beavis wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>If abortion does not kill a baby then why is killing a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>pregnant
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>woman
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>double murder??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>It isn't. It's regarded as a crime against the mother. Only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>uneducated
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>slobbering hooting nincompoops call it "double-murder", the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>law
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>NOT.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> /trials/peterson/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I guess those at CourtTV are "slobbering hooting nincompoops".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>California Penal Code Section 187
> >>>>>>>>>>>>(a) Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>fetus, with malice aforethought.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>-----------------
> >>>>>>>>>>>More legalistic nonsense. The SCotUS says it isn't, and as I
> >>>>>>>>>>>recall,
> >>>>>>>>>>>that is the Law of the Land.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>The SCOTUS does not define murder and is not the law of the land.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>----------------
> >>>>>>>>>I can't really help that you're obviously uneducated and
> >>>>>>>>>illiterate.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>The Constitution is the law of the land, Einstein. The SCOTUS
> >>>>>>>>doesn't
> >>>>>>>>make law.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-------------
> >>>>>>>The SCotUS INTERPRETS the Constitution, and is the SOLE
> >>>>>>>interpreter!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>All you need to do now is point out where murder is defined in the
> >>>>>>Constitution.
> >>>>>>Since it isn't, the SCOTUS does NOT say murder doesn't include a
> >>>>>>fetus.
> >>>>>>States define such things and California has defined the unlawful
> >>>>>>killing
> >>>>>>of a fetus, with malice aforethought, to be murder.
> >>>>>>The SCOTUS doesn't factor into that in any way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>LOL!
> >>>>>How about that 4th Amendment that GUARANTEES SAFETY AND SECURITY IN
> >>>>>ONE'S
> >>>>>PERSON?
> >>>>
> >>>>-----------------
> >>>>IF you're a human being, fetuses are not.
> >>>
> >>>Look. It isn't me who is clinging to some ignorant, negligent excuse that
> >>>acts as if persons who are in utero are not persons.
> >>
> >>---------------
> >>Gee, I'm not either, that leaves you again, asswipe.
> >
> >
> > Bullshit.
> >
> >
> >>Fetuses are NOT persons.
> >
> >
> > Kangaroo fetuses?
> > LOL!
> > You are dead wrong if you mean that human fetuses are not persons.
> >
> >
> >>If we ever were fetuses we'd remember it.
> >
> >
> > I remember it, you idiot.
> > I was a fetus before I was born.
> >
> >
> >>Since we don't, WE WEREN'T!!
> >
> >
> > Bullshit, you fool.
> > Every time you go to sleep you are obviously NOT a person by that logic.
>
> Anyone who is born, human, and alive is a person. Their state of
> consciousness is irrelevant.
-------------
Actually, they aren't conscious till four to six weeks, and if you
killed them there would be no one there to notice.
Steve