soc.women

Ray Fischer wrote:

> Ken Chaddock wrote:
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>>Ray Fischer wrote:
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>>>Ken Chaddock wrote:
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>>>>Gwenyth Bennet wrote:
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>>>>>On Aug 3, 7:27 am, Martin wrote:
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>>>>>>Gwen wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Aug 3, 6:29 am, Quadibloc wrote:
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>>>>>>>>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:26:40 -0400, "james g. keegan jr."
>>>>>>>> wrote, in part:
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>>>>>>>>>As written, the bill would ban women from
>>>>>>>>>seeking an abortion without written consent from the father of the
>>>>>>>>>fetus. In cases where the identity of the father is unknown, women
>>>>>>>>>would be required to submit a list of possible fathers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is disgusting, because the murder of an innocent child is no less
>>>>>>>>murder simply because the woman has her partner as an accessory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lying about the issue isn't going to score you points with anybody but
>>>>>>>the slimeballs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>hang on a sec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You did read the paragraph below? I thought Quad put forward good
>>>>>>arguments from both a pro and anti view as to why this proposal was a
>>>>>>load of crap.
>>>>
>>>>>I addressed John Savard's lie.
>>>>
>>>> Which "lie" would that be ? Many pro-life supporters *BELIEVE* that a
>>>>fetus is simply one stage in the continuum of human life and as such, is
>>>>as inseparable from the child it will become as that child is from the
>>>>adult it will become.
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>>>Pro-liars believe many irrational things. You even believe that a
>>>fetus is a human being worthy of rights but a pregnant women is not a
>>>human being with rights.
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>> The only liar in this thread appears to be you Ray.
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> "I know you are but what am I?"
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> [...]
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>> I realize that you, like many others, don't have the moral fortitude to
>>accept that abortion (with current technology) means killing a fetus
>>that is a developing human being
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> In the same way that using a condom kills a million developing human
> beings.

You see Ray, it's extremist, logically deficient and objectively (and
obviously) incorrect statements like this that destroy your credibility.
Condom use no more destroys a fetus than does masturbation since if
there is no joining of sperm with ovum, there's no fetus to destroy
where as, OTOH, a 40+ week old fetus is (legal fictions aside)
effectively identical to a 1 second old child...

...Ken