Group: rec.arts.movies.production.sound
From: ToneNeo
Date: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Readable DVDs on Computer and consumer players

On Sep 21, 8:15 pm, Rob wrote:
> I am just finding every edit suite to have a different ingesting
> method to
> input to Avid some are using PC others Mac and more just use a
> consumer DVD player. Toast will do a data backup on DVD of as many
> tracks as I use of
> timecoded WAV files with metadata that opens fine on computers but
> will
> not be recognised by DVD players but editors are saying DVDs burnt on
> PC work on all 3 ingesting methods

I would not encourage any post facility to import audio by "playing"
it on a consumer DVD player. Even with a digital output, this would
require it being re-recorded on the AVID, hence a real-time (slow)
process. More importantly they would also lose all timecode. To my
knowledge, consumer DVD players do not see or transmit Metadata
regardless if the disc was made on a PC or Mac. This would be an awful
way to "ingest" audio.
Audio should be brought into any editing system as files: drag and
drop. Any PC or Mac these days can see files on a DVD+R or DVD-R.
Some can not see DVD-RAM. There are many external drives that can be
used for this (LG makes some inexpensive ones). I'm not sure what
advantage any editor would see to using a consumer player (other than
billing for more hours).
File format audio has been around for a few years now but we still see
too many post people who do not know how to deal with it.

Some post people with older AVID's (that do not support BWF with
timecode) use professional DVD recorders, mainly DV40's or DV824's, to
input audio. If their firmware is not up to date they will not read
BWF form UDF or FAT32 formated DVD's. It's useful to check your
settings on Toast and ask about their firmware. This may why they are
saying that PC DVD's work but Mac DVD's don't.

If you still have need to play BWF files on a consumer player, first
run them through a utility like Sebsky Tools which can place a
Quicktime wrapper on them and then burn your DVD. Many consumer
players can play Quicktime movies.

Antonio