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"calvin" wrote in message
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On Feb 17, 4:19 pm, "*Anarcissie*" wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 12:17 pm, No Man wrote:
> > > I'm wondering if Rand was not really Chance the gardener from *Being
> > > There*. At the egging on of a friend, I read Atlas Slogged during one
> > > long and dreary grind. In there, I saw an ethos of greed, yes,
> On Feb 17, 3:43 pm, calvin wrote:
> > There was no ethos of greed at all. The ethos was of the
> > most able reaping the benefits of what they produce, and not
> > and not being enslaved to the less able. You may disagree
> > with that, but it's not about greed.
>
> Greed is a desire to get stuff which exceeds somebody's
> notion of how much stuff one ought to have or want. If
> you remove the moralization, it's just the desire to get
> stuff. Getting stuff seems to be a precondition for having
> a life, from the bacteria on up. I don't see the point of
> attempting to construct some sort of universal moralization
> about the desire of living beings to merely get stuff.

The moralization is that honest trade is the right way to get stuff,

But in nature deception and theft is OK?


by trading value for value. Getting stuff by mooching, looting,
or enslaving is morally wrong.

So the construction of morals was to stop certain people from doing what
comes natrually - only a theif constructs the idea of morality of working
for a living to enlarge his / hers potential - laws are made by those who
know they can get away with breaking them..

That should be obvious, but
governments and political systems give different names to
the mooching, looting, and enslaving that they promote,
making them appear to be high-minded and noble endeavors,
designed to serve the common good.

And it works - it breaks the "democracy" of equality in nature and so
generates elites - kings - civilization and all that goes with that.


That's my interpretation of Rand; but she speaks better for herself.